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It’s always so fascinating to have different experts on this show, and [00:00:45] Dr. Jill is bringing in a whole new way to look at trauma and how it lives in the [00:00:50] body. And I think, you know, we’re on this precipice of really understanding [00:00:55] how trauma is influencing health, right? How it’s not just influencing mental health [00:01:00] and emotional health, but actually physical health as well, where we see the connection between [00:01:05] trauma and inflammation, trauma and heart disease, trauma and cancer, and [00:01:10] we know we can actually measure the impact of what this is doing.
That’s the science of [00:01:15] some of what we’re talking about here. But we know that we are science and spirit, and that [00:01:20] it takes looking at all the different aspects of our health to put a whole picture together. [00:01:25] And as Jill talked about, trauma will live in the body and sabotage [00:01:30] us in a very quiet way, in a way that we might not even be conscious of, living in [00:01:35] areas like our head, our neck, our belly, our chest, where we just feel [00:01:40] uncomfortable or we don’t feel good, but we can’t really explain why.[00:01:45]
Dr. Jill talks a lot about EMDR, which is something you guys have been asking me about, and somatic healing, [00:01:50] and what does that mean? And these are things that we’ve been recommending at WHOLE+ for people who have [00:01:55] experienced trauma, because the methodology seems to help with [00:02:00] desensitization, which means it takes all the emotion and the cortisol out of a [00:02:05] traumatic experience and kinda takes the air and the wind out of it and brings it down into a [00:02:10] quiet place where the body is not always reacting every time [00:02:15] that memory resurfaces Your body, I think, and again, she drove that home [00:02:20] and I found it fascinating because we talk about it all the time, and we need to be [00:02:25] reminded that the body is a conduit to what is going on with us at each and every [00:02:30] moment, and even in past times.
It’s telling a story whether we wanna listen to it [00:02:35] or not. And what many of the guests keep coming on and talking about, whether we’re [00:02:40] talking about heart disease or money or trauma or [00:02:45] anything that, you know, we have tried to tackle on this show, people keep talking about the [00:02:50] words alignment and understanding your own [00:02:55] personal story and being able to listen to what your body is trying to tell you.
In [00:03:00] her latest book, Psyche’s Awakening, Dr. Jill is using a lot of Greek mythology to [00:03:05] help us identify where we may not be able to [00:03:10] verbalize what’s happening with us. So understanding your trauma timeline, right? [00:03:15] Which actually starts with microtraumas before the big ones. Understanding what’s happening [00:03:20] with attachment and your attachment styles.
All of these are tools that she’s put into her book [00:03:25] to help us really dig through and maybe get a better map or a better sense of what’s happening with [00:03:30] us overall. So I love the fact that, you know, these tools are there. It’s probably something I’m gonna [00:03:35] do myself, and I’m curious if you will, and if you, if you do, please share it with me.
I would love to know your [00:03:40] answers. But again, these are ways of us continuing the most important [00:03:45] conversation that we will ever have in our lives, and that’s the conversation with ourselves. [00:03:50] If you’re like me and you’ve come from a lot of chaos or dysfunction [00:03:55] or just kind of having the rug pulled un- out from under you from time to time, then this is [00:04:00] work we probably need to do.
And as I was telling Dr. Jill, I feel so [00:04:05] fortunate that in the latter part of my 20s, I spent a lot of time [00:04:10] alone, honestly. I was working, I was in residency, I just got my first job, [00:04:15] and was not in a relationship, but had a lot of time to work on myself, [00:04:20] and it was a gift, right? At the time you’re like, “Wait, what’s wrong with me?
Why, why am I not doing all the things all my [00:04:25] friends are doing?” I was going to God knows how many weddings and, and all the stuff. But it [00:04:30] was such a gift ’cause it was an opportunity for me in some ways to rewire [00:04:35] myself and to be receptive or to bring in somebody like my husband. [00:04:40] So I’m grateful for that time, and I wish that time and op- opportunity for everybody.[00:04:45]
Because oftentimes we just run through life, and we go from person to person to person or [00:04:50] different relationships, and we never have the chance to ask what we’re [00:04:55] doing or why we feel a certain way or why certain patterns repeat themselves. [00:05:00] Even after doing all that work and having a relatively stable [00:05:05] relationship over the years, there are still times when that old self will creep back, [00:05:10] right?
And I have to correct it and kind of put the dragon down and understand where some of those [00:05:15] feelings are coming from But I love the fact again that she’s got this [00:05:20] tool that helps us exactly verbalize and identify [00:05:25] where in the map of our soul the breaks might be. And if we can find those [00:05:30] and be aware of those, I am telling you guys that every time one of those thoughts come [00:05:35] back, we’ll be able to shut them down, and we can move trauma out of our body, [00:05:40] out of our nervous system, bring cortisol down, improve inflammation, but most [00:05:45] importantly, make the right choices for all of us.
So I hope you enjoy Dr. Jill’s [00:05:50] book. Check out her episode. But the takeaway for me from this [00:05:55] particular interview is, again, the connection, right? Bodies [00:06:00] interconnected, mind, body, spirit, the five body framework, and it’s important for us to continue [00:06:05] to do the work on all fronts. All right. Thanks for listening to me and [00:06:10] watching.
I will see you guys next time, and we will continue to bring on great guests [00:06:15] that force us to think and force us to move medicine forward. See you next [00:06:20] time
